{"id":7571,"date":"2013-02-25T11:17:11","date_gmt":"2013-02-25T16:17:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=7571"},"modified":"2013-02-25T11:17:11","modified_gmt":"2013-02-25T16:17:11","slug":"gun-lobby-1-unions-0","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=7571","title":{"rendered":"Gun Lobby 1, Unions 0"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.timesunion.com\/local\/article\/Have-guns-will-protest-4303229.php\" target=\"_blank\">Gun lobby day<\/a> is set for this Thursday in Albany and it looks like we&#8217;re going to have a good turnout which apparently has both <a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\" target=\"_blank\">Obama<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.governor.ny.gov\" target=\"_blank\">Cuomo<\/a> worried. \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.1199seiu.org\" target=\"_blank\">SEIU<\/a> was planning on busing people in for a counter-protest, but that apparently has been called off. \u00a0According to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nypost.com\/p\/news\/local\/pro_gun_law_forces_cancel_showdown_ayCJr7Xaa67v9W4KHvGJOO\" target=\"_blank\">Fred Dicker<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; many opponents of Cuomo\u2019s measure viewed the SEIU rally as an attempt to provoke a confrontation. \u00a0Most of SEIU\u2019s membership is black and Hispanic, while most of the opponents of the Cuomo law are white. \u00a0Advocates on both sides of the issue were concerned that any confrontation would be seen as having racial overtones. \u00a0As word of the planned counter-rally spread, the Albany police and aides to Cuomo agreed there was the potential for a serious confrontation &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While I believe there could have been some legitimate concerns over a confrontation, I do not agree at all with the racial aspects. \u00a0There are several other things working against a union protest which Fred doesn&#8217;t mention that likely had a lot more do with their decision to back off:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Guns are not their issue. \u00a0While unions do have a proven ability to turn (paid) people out for collective bargaining and budget negotiations, there&#8217;s no government cheese on the table for RKBA issues. \u00a0Why should their members show up?<\/li>\n<li>Many union members are also gun owners. \u00a0There&#8217;s been blowback from them concerning using union dues to promote a non-union issue.<\/li>\n<li>Remington employees in Illion are represented by the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unionfacts.com\/lu\/540530\/UMW\/717\/\" target=\"_blank\">United Mine Workers<\/a>. \u00a0Was SEIU planning on protesting the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.umwa.org\" target=\"_blank\">UMWA<\/a>?<\/li>\n<li>There are far more gun owners in the state than SEIU members and they would probably have been far outnumbered, thus making the union look weak and affecting their ability to lobby their real issues later on.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Instead, the Obama\/Cuomo\/antigun cabal are going for an old standby: celebrity astroturf. \u00a0According to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/new-york\/celebs-activists-uniting-back-ny-gun-law-article-1.1272090\" target=\"_blank\">Daily News<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;A new coalition of activists, unions and celebrities has formed to hit back against the vocal opposition to <a title=\"Andrew Cuomo\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/topics\/Andrew+Cuomo\">Gov. Cuomo<\/a>\u2019s recently approved gun-reform law, sources told the Daily News &#8230; A series of public events are being planned across the Empire State to tout the advantages of the reform bill, which the Legislature approved last month. \u00a0Among the celebrities said to have joined the nascent effort are hip-hop mogul <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm0005432\/\" target=\"_blank\">Russell Simmons<\/a>, actor <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm0001570\" target=\"_blank\">Ed Norton<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nypost.com\/p\/news\/national\/now_pay_up_tawana_mGWohFLamS4LCTEDjks9XP\" target=\"_blank\">Rev. Al Sharpton<\/a> &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Nobody is going to be impressed with those fools. \u00a0Worse (for them), is the more the public finds out about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/news\/nation\/2013\/01\/14\/cuomo-new-york-guns\/1833271\/\" target=\"_blank\">SAFE<\/a>, the less they like it. \u00a0So more power to them.<\/p>\n<p>\/em<\/p>\n<ul class=\"ssb_list_wrapper\"><li class=\"fb2\" style=\"width:135px\"><iframe src=\"\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gunpoliticsny.com%2F%3Fp%3D7571&amp;layout=button_count&amp;action=like&amp;show_faces=false&amp;share=true&amp;width=135&amp;height=21&amp;appId=307091639398582\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border:none; overflow:hidden;  width:150px; height:21px;\" allowTransparency=\"true\"><\/iframe><\/li><li class=\"twtr\" style=\"width:90px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/share\" class=\"twitter-share-button\" data-url=\"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=7571\">&nbsp;<\/a><script>!function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=\/^http:\/.test(d.location)?'http':'https';if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src=p+':\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js';fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document, 'script', 'twitter-wjs');<\/script><\/li><li class=\"gplus\" style=\"width:68px\"><div class=\"g-plusone\" data-size=\"medium\" data-href=\"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=7571\"><\/div><\/li><li class=\"ssb_linkedin\" style=\"width:64px\"><script src=\"\/\/platform.linkedin.com\/in.js\" type=\"text\/javascript\">lang: en_US<\/script><script type=\"IN\/Share\" data-url=\"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=7571\" data-counter=\"right\"><\/script><\/li><\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gun lobby day is set for this Thursday in Albany and it looks like we&#8217;re going to have a good turnout which apparently has both Obama and Cuomo worried. \u00a0SEIU was planning on busing people in for a counter-protest, but that apparently has been called off. \u00a0According to Fred Dicker: &#8220;&#8230; 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