{"id":14395,"date":"2017-04-17T11:03:17","date_gmt":"2017-04-17T15:03:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=14395"},"modified":"2017-04-17T11:03:17","modified_gmt":"2017-04-17T15:03:17","slug":"nydailynews-hysteria-on-reciprocity-bill","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=14395","title":{"rendered":"@NYDailyNews hysteria on reciprocity bill"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/opinion\/washington-dead-aim-nra-undermines-gotham-gun-laws-article-1.3056905?cid=bitly\" target=\"_blank\">Some PSH from the Daily News on reciprocity<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Look around, look around, New York City, at how lucky we are to be alive right now: Over nearly three decades, Gotham has led the country in protecting ever more of its people from the ravages of violence \u2014 particularly violence at the barrel of a gun. From the peak of the crack-fueled murder epidemic in 1990, murders here have plunged by 84% and shootings by 81%, driven in no small part by the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nyc.gov\/nypd\" target=\"_blank\">NYPD\u2019s<\/a> vigorous enforcement of some of the strongest gun laws in the nation &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Except New York&#8217;s gun laws <a href=\"http:\/\/niagarafallsreporter.com\/column357.html\" target=\"_blank\">weren&#8217;t designed as a public safety measure<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; Now, a very real threat to that living legacy winds its way through the halls of Congress down in Washington &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com\/2009\/12\/18\/big-tim-sullivan-tammany-kingmaker\/\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Big Tim&#8221; Sullivan<\/a> must be laughing in his grave over this.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; <a href=\"http:\/\/thomas.loc.gov\" target=\"_blank\">The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act<\/a> \u2014 a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nra.org\" target=\"_blank\">National Rifle Association<\/a> dream \u2014 would be a nightmare for cops looking to keep New Yorkers, and themselves, safe on city streets &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s a nightmare only in so far as it disproves the long held liberal\/progressive belief that more guns = more crime.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; In a country where 55 million people, spread across states as diverse as the very landscape, own guns, reciprocity would force our densely populated city to accept lowest-common-denominator rules from places where anyone who can move a trigger finger can legally wield a firearm &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What exactly does population density have to do with where and when people can legally carry a firearm?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; Eleven states allow residents to carry firearms without any permit whatsoever \u2014 meaning, without so much as a background check &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Given that constitutional carry is a recent change, what does this say about the effectiveness of gun control laws as a crime deterrent?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; Florida has issued permits to 1,400 felons, 216 people with outstanding warrants, 128 with domestic violence injunctions against them, and a half-dozen registered sex offenders &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Convicted felons cannot legally possess firearms. Period.<\/p>\n<p>If this is an issue in Florida, is there any serious effort to change the laws there? No.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; No one could legally stop a Floridian from flying or driving here, gun in tow &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What is stopping them now? The law? There&#8217;s no magic barrier surrounding the City.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; It\u2019s not that we envision hordes of violent tourists terrorizing innocent New Yorkers &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So the problem is what?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; It\u2019s that residents of New York could easily take a short trip, get armed and come back \u2014 instantly undermining every gun law we have &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Aha! Locals are the problem. Floridians with guns are ok, but native New Yorkers? Fuggedaboutit.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; Officers of the NYPD are charged with enforcing the statutes of the city and state. Under that framework, they must make split-second judgment calls about what to do when they see, for instance, a bulge in a jacket or in a pant leg. In a world of concealed carry reciprocity, a thick fog will set in: They will have no way of knowing whether the people they encounter might be legally carrying. Which will add an untold dimension of danger to every interaction &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Police in other municipalities already deal with this yet they do not appear to have any issues. Do the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dallaspolice.net\" target=\"_blank\">DPD<\/a> have special cognitive powers others do not, or are the NYPD just a bunch of idiots?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; And since there is no national gun permit database, if this legislation \u2014 which <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/realDonaldTrump\" target=\"_blank\">President Trump<\/a> has promised to sign \u2014 becomes law, the NYPD would be powerless to determine promptly whether a given gun permit is legit &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Suspects are to be presumed innocent and individuals cannot be stopped without just cause.\u00a0 Merely being suspected of carrying a concealed firearm should not give cause for anyone to be stopped by police.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; Imagine: Ever more armed New Yorkers able to assert that they\u2019re allowed to carry, and cops with no way of knowing otherwise &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Imagine New Yorkers being able to legally do what the overwhelming majority of people living outside the beltway already do.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; The danger is clear and present. And the hypocrisy from a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gop.org\" target=\"_blank\">Republican Party<\/a> that 10 minutes ago claimed to revere states\u2019 rights is enough to choke on. If you don\u2019t get shot first.&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is why the Daily News&#8217; <a href=\"http:\/\/nypost.com\/2016\/11\/16\/daily-news-reports-steep-decline-in-circulation\/\" target=\"_blank\">circulation is way down<\/a>.<\/p>\n<ul class=\"ssb_list_wrapper\"><li class=\"fb2\" style=\"width:135px\"><iframe src=\"\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gunpoliticsny.com%2F%3Fp%3D14395&amp;layout=button_count&amp;action=like&amp;show_faces=false&amp;share=true&amp;width=135&amp;height=21&amp;appId=307091639398582\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border:none; overflow:hidden;  width:150px; height:21px;\" allowTransparency=\"true\"><\/iframe><\/li><li class=\"twtr\" style=\"width:90px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/share\" class=\"twitter-share-button\" data-url=\"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=14395\">&nbsp;<\/a><script>!function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=\/^http:\/.test(d.location)?'http':'https';if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src=p+':\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js';fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document, 'script', 'twitter-wjs');<\/script><\/li><li class=\"gplus\" style=\"width:68px\"><div class=\"g-plusone\" data-size=\"medium\" data-href=\"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=14395\"><\/div><\/li><li class=\"ssb_linkedin\" style=\"width:64px\"><script src=\"\/\/platform.linkedin.com\/in.js\" type=\"text\/javascript\">lang: en_US<\/script><script type=\"IN\/Share\" data-url=\"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=14395\" data-counter=\"right\"><\/script><\/li><\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some PSH from the Daily News on reciprocity: &#8220;Look around, look around, New York City, at how lucky we are to be alive right now: Over nearly three decades, Gotham has led the country in protecting ever more of its people from the ravages of violence \u2014 particularly violence at the barrel of a gun. 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