{"id":10319,"date":"2014-06-09T11:20:57","date_gmt":"2014-06-09T15:20:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=10319"},"modified":"2014-06-09T11:20:57","modified_gmt":"2014-06-09T15:20:57","slug":"go-full-retard-on-gun-control","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=10319","title":{"rendered":"Go full retard on gun control"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/contributors\/dean-obeidallah.html\" target=\"_blank\">Dean Obeidallah<\/a>\u00a0at the Daily Beast encourages antigunners to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/articles\/2014\/06\/08\/it-s-time-to-think-big-or-shut-up-on-gun-control.html\" target=\"_blank\">go big or go home<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Anyone else tired of the same old bullshit we see after every gun-shooting spree? &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes.\u00a0 I can always count on talking heads from the lamestream media to trout out the same liars, misfits and fools pushing their agenda of hate.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230;The news breaks of these incidents and the gun forces spring into action.\u00a0 Those seeking to end gun violence demand new laws be enacted &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Virtually all of which are orchestrated displays of astroturf.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; This is, of course, met by the pro-gun forces urging people not to politicize a tragedy &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>How dare gunnies fight back.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230;\u00a0 Or worse, people like \u201cJoe the Plumber\u201d <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/articles\/2014\/05\/29\/joe-the-plumber-s-dead-kid-callousness.html\" target=\"_blank\">callously saying<\/a>, in essence, \u201cI don\u2019t care if your kid dies as long as I have unlimited access to guns.\u201d\u00a0 The NRA and Joe the Plumber view dead Americans as an acceptable loss so that they can have easy access to guns &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Joe had the nerve to <a href=\"http:\/\/talkingpointsmemo.com\/livewire\/joe-the-plumber-wurzelbacher-ucsb-shooting-dead-kids\" target=\"_blank\">call BS<\/a> on the antis usual tactic of attempting to blame and shame gun owners into capitulating to their demands and they don&#8217;t like it one bit.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; And then comes the politicians. They respond by doing nothing &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Untrue.\u00a0 They just did not do what Dean wanted them to do.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; And the winner time and time again is the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nra.org\" target=\"_blank\">NRA<\/a>.\u00a0 Why? &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Because they know the general public is behind them which is something the antis will never, ever admit.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; The reality is that the NRA will keep winning unless something changes in the approach by those like myself who desperately want to see a reduction in the number of people killed by guns each and every day.\u00a0 It\u2019s either time we try a different approach or shut up.\u00a0 I\u2019m not being rude, just being honest.\u00a0 Simply repeating the same arguments and hoping for a different result is a waste of time &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Translation: We aren&#8217;t fooling anybody.\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/youtu.be\/X6WHBO_Qc-Q\" target=\"_blank\">Time to go full retard<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; So what can be done that\u2019s different? Well, here are a few suggestions.\u00a0 Some are activities already happening that need more support, while others are more long-term ideas.\u00a0\u00a0 1<b>. Grassroots activism targeting corporations.\u00a0 <\/b>A band of courageous mothers lead by <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/shannonrwatts\" target=\"_blank\">Shannon Watts<\/a> have created \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MomsDemand\" target=\"_blank\">Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense<\/a>\u201d and are engaged in a grassroots campaign in same vein as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.madd.org\" target=\"_blank\">Mothers Against Drunk Driving<\/a> &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/04\/16\/us\/bloomberg-plans-a-50-million-challenge-to-the-nra.html\" target=\"_blank\">a blatantly phony front<\/a> funded by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mikebloomberg.com\" target=\"_blank\">Mayor Bloomberg<\/a> and everybody knows it.\u00a0 There is absolutely nothing grassroots about it.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; There\u2019s also the National Gun Victims Action Council (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gunvictimsaction.org\" target=\"_blank\">NGVAC<\/a>) founded by Elliot Fineman, whose son was killed by a mentally ill gunmen &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Days of Our Trailers covers <a href=\"http:\/\/daysofourtrailers.blogspot.com\/search?q=Elliot%20Fineman\" target=\"_blank\">Fineman<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/daysofourtrailers.blogspot.com\/search?q=ngvac\" target=\"_blank\">NGVAC<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; NGVAC has called for a boycott this Father\u2019s Day of cards made by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hallmark.com\" target=\"_blank\">Hallmark<\/a> &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>First I&#8217;ve heard of this so it must be a really big success.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; <b>2. Use the tactics of anti-abortion groups.<\/b>\u00a0For example, start holding up photos of people killed by gun violence at political events &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The bulk of which are either suicides or low-lifes. Plus there are many more people who use guns for self-defense. Not admitting this does not make it untrue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; Or use the court system to file lawsuits to raise issues. Perhaps the victims of gun violence could sue the NRA if their loved one was killed by a gun obtained because of the NRA&#8217;s opposition to universal background checks.\u00a0 A long shot yes, but tort law does evolve and there could be a finding that the NRA has a degree of culpability in spending millions to oppose laws that would have saved a person\u2019s life &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Using this logic, gunnies could then sue <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nyagv.org\" target=\"_blank\">NYAGV<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bradycampaign.org\" target=\"_blank\">Brady<\/a>, etc.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; <b>3.\u00a0 Repeal the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Protection_of_Lawful_Commerce_in_Arms_Act\" target=\"_blank\">Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act<\/a><\/b>. &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Can&#8217;t have #2 (or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.urbandictionary.com\/define.php?term=Number+two\" target=\"_blank\">make #2<\/a>) without it.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; <b>4. Rewrite the Second Amendment.<\/b>\u00a0I\u2019m not saying repeal it, but take a page from the pro-gun lobby who for 20-plus years preached, wrote academic papers, held seminars, etc., to support the then-radical notion that the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution\" target=\"_blank\">Second Amendment<\/a> bestowed a personal right to own a gun, thus making it more challenging to enact laws that restrict access to them &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Not too long ago he would not have even admitted the 2A acknowledged an individual civil right.\u00a0 Shows how far the other side has fallen.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230; I can tell you this with confidence, unless those of us who want to reduce gun violence start changing their tactics, we will see more of our fellow Americans killed and the NRA will go on winning.\u00a0 It\u2019s time to think different or shut up &#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But you&#8217;re not thinking differently.\u00a0 You&#8217;ve put up nothing but the same old, same old the antigunners have been saying and doing for decades.\u00a0 The public is smart enough to see through it.<\/p>\n<ul class=\"ssb_list_wrapper\"><li class=\"fb2\" style=\"width:135px\"><iframe src=\"\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gunpoliticsny.com%2F%3Fp%3D10319&amp;layout=button_count&amp;action=like&amp;show_faces=false&amp;share=true&amp;width=135&amp;height=21&amp;appId=307091639398582\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border:none; overflow:hidden;  width:150px; height:21px;\" allowTransparency=\"true\"><\/iframe><\/li><li class=\"twtr\" style=\"width:90px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/share\" class=\"twitter-share-button\" data-url=\"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=10319\">&nbsp;<\/a><script>!function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=\/^http:\/.test(d.location)?'http':'https';if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src=p+':\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js';fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document, 'script', 'twitter-wjs');<\/script><\/li><li class=\"gplus\" style=\"width:68px\"><div class=\"g-plusone\" data-size=\"medium\" data-href=\"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=10319\"><\/div><\/li><li class=\"ssb_linkedin\" style=\"width:64px\"><script src=\"\/\/platform.linkedin.com\/in.js\" type=\"text\/javascript\">lang: en_US<\/script><script type=\"IN\/Share\" data-url=\"http:\/\/www.gunpoliticsny.com\/?p=10319\" data-counter=\"right\"><\/script><\/li><\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dean Obeidallah\u00a0at the Daily Beast encourages antigunners to go big or go home: &#8220;Anyone else tired of the same old bullshit we see after every gun-shooting spree? 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